From ScienceNordic:
Researchers the world over almost unanimously agree that our climate is changing … But many farmers – at least Swedish ones – have experienced mild winters and shifting weather before and are hesitant about trusting the scientists.
The researcher who discovered the degree of scepticism among farmers was surprised by her findings. Therese Asplund, who led the study, was initially looking into how agricultural magazines covered climate change, but got a lesson in reality from swedish famers.
Asplund found after studying ten years of issues of the two agricultural sector periodicals ATL and Land Lantbruk that they present climate change as scientifically confirmed, a real problem. But her research took an unexpected direction when she started interviewing farmers in focus groups about climate issues.
Asplund had prepared a long list of questions about how the farmers live with the threat of climate change and what they plan to do to cope with the subsequent climate challenges. The conversations took a different course: “They explained that they didn’t quite believe in climate changes,” she says. “Or at least that these are not triggered by human activities.”
The paper:
Climate change frames and frame formation: An analysis of climate change communication in the Swedish agricultural sector
While previous research into understandings of climate change has usuallyexamined general public perceptions and mainstream media representations, this thesis offers an audience-specific departure point by analysing climate change frames and frame formation in Swedish agriculture. The empirical material consists of Swedish farm magazines’ reporting on climate change, as well as eight focus group discussions among Swedish farmers on the topic of climate change and climate change information.
The analysis demonstrates that while Swedish farm magazines frame climate change in terms of conflict, scientific uncertainty,and economic burden, farmers in the focus groups tended to concentrate on whether climate change was a natural or human-induced phenomenon, and viewed climate change communication as an issue of credibility. It was found that farm magazines use metaphorical representations of war and games to form the overall frames of climate change. In contrast, the farmers’ frames of natural versus human-induced climate change were formed primarily using experience-based and non-experience based arguments, both supported with analogies, distinctions,keywords, metaphors, and prototypical examples. Furthermore, discussions of what constitutes credible climate information centred on conflict versus consensus-oriented frames of climate change communication along with different views of the extent to which knowledge of climate change is and should be practically or analytically based.
This analysis of climate change communication in the Swedish agricultural sector proposes that the sense making processes of climate change are complex, involving associative thinking and experience- based knowledge
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So the hypothesis that the farmers are right didn’t make it into the study?
God Forbid we listen to people with decades and generations of experience dealing with weather and climate professionally.
Well, “not even peasants” is stupid enough to believe the 97% consensus or further the belief of AGW. Not to talk about CAGW. Suddenly I am a little proud to be swedish.
Peasants in Sweden is more like any business leader today and not so gullible as you might think. They will need a harder type of brainwashing.
Consensus is (or should be) irrelevant in Science. In Politics it is everything.
the farmer better watch out or they’ll get a visit from Al Gore:
1 July: News Ltd: Network Writers: Al Gore tells Tony Abbott: ‘Change or get out of the way’
AL GORE has warned Tony Abbott to “change or get out of the way” of sensible environmental policy, labelling the Prime Minister a “straight-out climate denier”.
Speaking to Vice after forging an unlikely alliance with Clive Palmer, the former US vice-president said “silly” initiatives like the government’s direct action plan had “never worked anywhere.”…
(ON POLITICIAN & MINING MAGNATE CLIVE PALMER) “But I think that whatever unusual features to his style there may be, deep down there’s absolutely no question in my mind that he has a sense of social justice, he has a keen sense of right and wrong. … He wants to make the world a better place.”…
“I think we’re not far from a point where people will look back on climate denialists as extremely odd, self destructive,” he said.
Mr Gore’s message to the PM: “Please, either change or get out of the way. Because Australia wants to have the kind of sensible policies that the rest of the world is moving toward.
“It’s coming. We’ve won this. The only question is how much time it’s going to take and how much damage is going to be programmed into the climate system in the meantime.”
http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/al-gore-tells-tony-abbott-change-or-get-out-of-the-way/story-fnjwvztl-1226973023400
1 July: News Ltd: Clive Palmer faces arrest unless he can explain in court how he spent $12 million
CLIVE Palmer could face arrest unless he fronts a secret arbitration hearing with chequebook stubs that show how he spent $12m that a Chinese company has accused him of taking during last year’s election campaign.
Sino Iron yesterday swamped the Queensland Supreme Court with 15 applications, including a personal subpoena for the federal politician, demanding he produce butts for two cheques numbered 2046 and 2073…
Sino has also subpoenaed Media Circus Pty Ltd, from Brisbane, which ran advertising and produced campaign material for the Palmer United Party in 2013…
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/clive-palmer-faces-arrest-unless-he-can-explain-in-court-how-he-spent-12-million/story-fnda1bsz-1226972900379
It was found that farm magazines use metaphorical representations of war and games to form the overall frames of climate change. In contrast, the farmers’ frames of natural versus human-induced climate change were formed primarily using experience-based and non-experience based arguments, both supported with analogies, distinctions,keywords, metaphors, and prototypical examples.
Was Terry Oldberg a co-author? lol
Who do you believe, a farmer who is out in the weather every day 12hours a day, or some clown
Sitting in an air conditioned cube playing with his computer trying to get grant money?
No doubt they are itching to seize control of all the farms and make them climate compliant.
It is for exactly this situation that Jonathan Swift wrote his story about Laputa.
Farmers just might know the truth, after all they live by the weather!!
We have what is called “Century Farms” in Oregon. These are farms that have been running as a productive farm for at least 100 years. In that time, the wisdom is acculumative, passed down from one generation to the next.
“Global warming” versus “the climate is always changing” is not an issue with farmers. What is an issue is what do we plant next based on what the jetstream/ENSO/AO is doing. What they need are heads up warning regarding the knees of oscillations. The rest of it they get.
Never, ever underestimate a farmer in his/her ability to put food on your table year after year, decade after decade, century after century.
The recent Dr.Tim Ball thread reminded me of fun with http://drtimball.com/2013/wrong-prediction-wrong-science-unless-its-government-climate-science/
http://weather.gc.ca/saisons/ver_e.html
Svensk bonde saka skit
… Saga skir
What I got out of reading the abstract was: nothing!
It is written in academic gibberish, and conveys no comprehensible information at all.
So what do the farmers believe? What do the say? What are they doing? What do they think is happening, and why do they think that? On what basis do they adjust their behaviour?
Huh?
Pamela Gray says:
June 30, 2014 at 7:31 pm
To qualify as a Century Farm, it has to have belonged to the same family for that period.
The relationship between big oil and Swedish farmers is well-documented. Ask Mann. He knows.
Hmmm…. That paper was all about how to convince farmers to ‘believe’ in ClimateChange.
The analysis should have been on what the farmers said, not how they framed it or how many times listeners agreed with the speaker by mumbling “M mmm.” Probably worse, it appeared interpretation of the farmer’s words was done in academic vernacular, not farmer vernacular. In one case, the paper mentions analysis of a farmer statement that he had seen lots of changes in the climate in the nearly half century he had been farming so didn’t believe the climate is changing. That was claimed in the paper as demonstrating faulty logic. The farmers in the room did not object to his statement because they understood what he meant: The climate has always changed from year to year and decade to decade so this is nothing new.
Of course, the real take away message is that the farmers deal with reality, not academic pronouncements.
Aussie farmers have about the same ambivalence toward Mann Made climate change.
swedish farmers don’t get interviewed by Fareed Zakaria on CNN!
29 June: CNN: Fmr. U.S. Treasury Secy. Rubin on climate change: “The risk here is catastrophic”
CNN’s FAREED ZAKARIA GPS features an interview with the former U.S. Treasury Secretary under George W. Bush, Henry Paulson, and the former U.S. Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton, Robert Rubin…
FAREED ZAKARIA, HOST: According to an important, dramatic new report, the future could be bleak for most Americans. By mid-century, it says, 23 billion dollars of property will likely be underwater (literally) in Florida alone. Crop yields in the Midwest will probably be down 50 to 70 percent. Americans will likely experience 2 to 3 times as many days with temperatures above 95 degrees as they do today. All this, the report’s authors say, if we don’t do something about climate change now. And the report has serious pedigree…
PAULSON: Well, Fareed, I think there are a lot of fellow Republicans, my fellow Republicans, business leaders and political leaders, that are ready for a serious discussion about the science and the risks that come out of the science…
PAULSON: Yes. What I’ve said about a carbon tax is some people that oppose it are opposing it because they don’t like the government playing a big role. And, you know, the perverse aspect of that is, frankly, those that are resisting taking action now are guaranteeing that the government will be playing a bigger role, because we’re seeing now and we’re going to see an increasing number of natural disasters, Mother Nature acts. We have forest fires, we have floods, we have big storms and storm surges, we have killer tornadoes…
RUBIN: I wouldn’t frame the issue the way you just did, Fareed. If you – if you have the view, which Hank and I both have, that the risk here is catastrophic and catastrophic to life on Earth as we know it – then that’s a risk we cannot take. And once you start with the recognition that this could be catastrophic, then it seems to me, you do a full court press on all fronts…
ZAKARIA: … The Chinese and Indians, by some measures, build one new coal-fired power plant each week. And that’s going to change the climate no matter what happens in the United States. What do you say?
RUBIN: Fareed, I think the answer to that is not complicated. This is a transnational issue that’s going to affect all of our countries. It is of enormous importance to all of us, I think, as I said, a catastrophic risk. And I think that the way the United States can best contribute is, A, get our own house in order. And by getting our own house in order, put ourselves in a much better position to then work with the Chinese and others around the world so that everybody does what they need to do…
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/29/fmr-u-s-treasury-secy-rubin-on-climate-change-the-risk-here-is-catastrophic/
Even in our air conditioned John Deeres, we actually do have to ‘know wearher’. Early planting, or late planting? And on and on. The only reasonable meme is to become extremely conservative.
Something about the principal of doing … Gets up pretty close and personal. Regards from a farm that produces almost 2m pounds of milk/ year, plus carryover veal, beef, and forage. And, we really love selling GMO corn to get back distillers grain feed for our cattle, that China just banned. And darned if we did NOT get a wind turbine on our pastures. They are all down on the ridge east of Dodgeville. Missed out on all that filthy lucure. Must be a Sears/subsidy thing?? Never mind Google. Go local with real farmers if you want the straight scoop.
NASA seems to be pretty sure of its climate dogma. Although, it would be amusing if the new satellite (Orbiting Carbon Observatory-2), scheduled to launch tomorrow, wound up disproving much of that dogma.
I am sure that the re-education camps are ready for the Swedish farmers. They will whistle a different tune after that.
Obviously, I don’t expect a NASA science miracle with OCO2. And if they did collect contrary data, they would simply massage it into compliance.
GaryW says: “the paper mentions analysis of a farmer statement that he had seen lots of changes in the climate in the nearly half century he had been farming so didn’t believe the climate is changing. That was claimed in the paper as demonstrating faulty logic.”
Or in other words, the second differential (the rate of change of the changes, or changes in the rate of changes) is flat, the opposite of “unprecedented”.
Or something like that.
God Bless the Farmers, every one!
From an old Wisconsin plow boy, bale chucker, and …. manure shoveler,
Mac